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Post by UrbanLegend on May 11, 2005 22:16:43 GMT -5
Alright... get it out of your system. I know how funny the title of this thread is.
But anways, I figure I would spark the discussion on how Robin should be portrayed in a movie franchise. I too agree Robing should just be ignored, but this is one of those what if threads.
It starts in Batman 5.
For those famliar with Dark Victory, it would be a lot like that with Batman tracking Two-Face, and Dick Grayson, age 14-15 being a sub-story where he would only sow up in costume in the last 10-15 minutes.
Then in Batman 6, Bruce would prevent Dick from being Robin for fear of his safety, and Dick would just be in the batcave doing research. DiDick would then get the idea Batman is in grave danger at the hands of the recently released Scarecrow, and he would be Robin once again, and after the fight Batman would tell Dick, who is around 18-19 by now that he needs to leave.
In Batman Seven Dick Grayson would return to Gotham, after a couple years of "finding himself" and re-emerge as Nightwing.
What do you think?
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Post by TheShadow on May 12, 2005 0:12:22 GMT -5
I think that 14-15 is a good age and that having him kinda on the side when he's introduced is a good idea.
I'd like to see him a little darker; think young Bruce Wayne. More silent and reserved. To keep in spirit with the character, I'd have him joke around to make fun of criminals and hurt them with words as well as fists. Kinda like Spider-Man. But don't overdo it too much. I'd keep him lighter than Batman but darker than the usual Robin.
I'd like to see Grayson chase after Zucco and start beating on him. Batman is in the distance, ready to strike in case Grayson tries to kill Zucco, but Grayson hears police sirens in the background and leaves Zucco, wounded and quivering, on the ground. He looks up to see Batman and nods to him. This kinda shows Batman that Grayson can prevent himself from crossing the line at a young age which, from Batman's perspective, should make the kid worthy to be the Dark Knight's partner.
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Post by UrbanLegend on May 12, 2005 10:55:27 GMT -5
That sounds like a good interpretation as well Shadow.
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Post by TheShadow on May 12, 2005 20:57:47 GMT -5
Thanks. Whenever they bring Robin in (trust me, it's inevitable), they should do a serious, well-developed take on him that would bring respect for Robin.
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Post by Tragic Past on May 12, 2005 21:26:45 GMT -5
Thanks. Whenever they bring Robin in (trust me, it's inevitable), they should do a serious, well-developed take on him that would bring respect for Robin. I highly doubt they will bring him in, this series is trying to escape any similarities to the previous ones. He is too campy to escape the cheesy stigma. |
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Post by UrbanLegend on May 12, 2005 21:37:45 GMT -5
I highly doubt they will bring him in, this series is trying to escape any similarities to the previous ones. He is too campy to escape the cheesy stigma. The fact of the matter is, there will never be another Burt Ward. |
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Post by TheShadow on May 12, 2005 21:43:34 GMT -5
It obviously won't happen in the next couple sequels, but it's bound to happen at any point. I personally think that Robin's origin is important in the Batman universe and shows Batman that he's not alone; it's Robin's personality that needs some work as well as his rep for being Burt "Holy *insert next word from the dictionary here*" Ward. Whenever he comes in, I can predict that he won't be the camp cheese that he's been in other live action protrayals.
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Post by Tragic Past on Jun 7, 2005 16:18:17 GMT -5
It obviously won't happen in the next couple sequels, but it's bound to happen at any point. I personally think that Robin's origin is important in the Batman universe and shows Batman that he's not alone; it's Robin's personality that needs some work as well as his rep for being Burt "Holy *insert next word from the dictionary here*" Ward. Whenever he comes in, I can predict that he won't be the camp cheese that he's been in other live action protrayals. True, but on the other hand....the whole concept of the character in relating to Batman doesn't make any sense. Bruce trained for YEARS to become as skilled as he is, then all of a sudden he takes in this KID and even though he has great amounts of athletic ability...we as an audience are supposed to believe he all of a sudden is a skilled warrior in comabt? ....I don't think so. Add to the fact that Robin dilutes the character more so than he helps it. One of the most important aspects, and most interesting is Bruce making it a one man war on crime.... why would he bring in a little boy into the mix, who more than likely would lose his life the first night out. By bringing in a little boy, in a franchise now firmly based in reality...we are supposed to believe this kid could actually scare criminals and take them all head on, at 12-15 years of age. It sounds completely ridiculous, plus I just couldn't imagine the beast that Christian Bale is creeping around with a little boy in green and red and yellow. Bruce doesn't need a Robin for family either...that's what Alfred is for. And I really couldn't see Bats as being a surrogate father for a Robin, because Bruce would have no idea how to be a father because HIS father was taken away from him at such an early age. Bruce is really just a scared child, who still harbors the feelings he did when his parents were brutally taken away from him...he wouldn't be in any state of mind to be able to raise a child. I could go on and on for days about how Robin is a bad character, but I will spare you guys my strong opinions. I'm just glad we won't be seeing him in ANY sequals, because he would only end up taking screen time from more important and interesting characters. Robin should stay where he is, and that is in the comics. |
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Post by dcfan123321 on May 23, 2006 15:41:10 GMT -5
I think they should at least introduce him. Because what happens in the comics is that first Robin is trained, then after a few years he also becomes the leader of the Teen Titans, and then Batman forces to either be his sidekick or be the leader of the teen titans. Then he becomes NIGHTWING. After a few more years he comes across a kid that tries to steal the wheels off of his Batmobile. So Batman gives the orphan a home. Soon he trains him,and then JASON TODD(the orphan) finds out his long lost mother is still alive and when he goes to Africa looking for her he falls into a trap set by JOKER and both him and his mother die. But then a boy name TIM DRAKE, who happened to be at the circus the day that DICK GRAYSON's family were killed, finds out about BRUCE WAYNE and offers his help, eventually leading him to become the next ROBIN.
if anything they should introduce robin in the next two movies, then introduce jason todd(dies in the same movie), and ultimately lead to tim drake
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Post by wowposter1 on Sept 9, 2008 0:40:44 GMT -5
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